Posts by Bungi Bill

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Have You Prepared For The "Flu" And Do You Get A Flu Shot?

by minimus in

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friends

i try to keep my hands clean regularly and stay away from areas and people that i know are sick.. i have never gotten a flu shot and i do know that many that do get one, get the flu anyway.. still, the flu is considered very very bad this year..

Bungi Bill

Were I given to sarcasm, I would probably begin with something along the lines of "Pardon me, but I thought the whole idea of being vaccinated against influenza was to prevent one from getting the flu?"

However, sarcasm has never been my scene, and I don't intend to begin now!

It does seem, though, that I have to spell it out for some people:

- what I meant was that receiving the flu shots each year during that four year period never prevented me from getting the flu.

Also, I never claimed to having been made sick from one flu shot, so kindly refrain from introducing that staw man into the discussion.

Bill.

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Post 607: Reject 607 BC if You TRULY Trust the Bible!!!

by Londo111 in

therefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.

if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.

then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.

Bungi Bill

The institution where Scholar got his PHD from is actually not far from where I live:

- it is located in Tasmania, and called the University of Lower Crackpot!

Bill.

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Have You Prepared For The "Flu" And Do You Get A Flu Shot?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i try to keep my hands clean regularly and stay away from areas and people that i know are sick.. i have never gotten a flu shot and i do know that many that do get one, get the flu anyway.. still, the flu is considered very very bad this year..

Bungi Bill

I no longer get flu shots:

- not after having done so during the four years 1997- 2001 (when my then employer used to provide flu shots to any members of the work force who wished to receive these).

During those four years, I have never been so sick in my life, before or since.

So, no - these days, I don't waste my time anymore!

Bill.

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Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

by Cold Steel in

for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

Bungi Bill

Cold Steel,

The trouble with a "Theocracy" is that they all think that this is what they have got - they and nobody else. Once convinced of that, it is then just a short step to being able to justify such atrocities as stoning to death, burning at the stake and similar.

Bill.

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Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

by Cold Steel in

for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

Bungi Bill

All religions have produced their share of fanatics, including that of the Watchtower. Also, in the scale of history, it wasn't that long ago that the so-called "Mainstream" Christian churches used to burn people at the stake for such offences as "heresy" (read apostasy) and witchcraft.

In its own way, burning at the stake is just as gruesome as stoning a person to death. Yet it was sanctioned by what we like to now call the "Mainstream" (i.e. not the lunatic fringe element type) Christian churches - and in the Western countries, which like to view themselves as the very pillars of "civilization."

To those who say "Come On!", and "Really", I am not so sure.

While I don't ever recall any elder making an outright statement that he would like to stone somebody to death, nothing would surprize me too much in this regard. I certainly knew all too many JWs of a fanatical enough frame of mind that they would have carried out the order if it had been issued.

As has often been noted:

"Good people will do good things, and bad people will carry out bad things. However, if you want to get good people to do bad things, just introduce the G.O.D. word into the equation!"

This applies to the JWs just as much as anybody else.

Bill.

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JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!

by ekruks in

like many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.

after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).

i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.

Bungi Bill

"It might have been my decision, but at the time I did not feel like I had any other options but go pioneering."

That is exactly how I felt when the twerps got me to abandon my apprenticeship, almost 40 years ago to the day.

(Down in this part of the world at least, they took the 1975 hype to the point where they even stopped kids from entering into an apprenticeship).

After that time, I also have had some of them try and tell me that it was my choice, and mine alone. The same ones, (of course!) still had the daggers out for me when I resumed the apprenticeship as an adult some seven years later.

"Your choice" - I say it was Hobsons Bloody Choice!

Bill.

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Did you ever have any real weirdos ? in your congregation who were Elders ?

by smiddy in

.....some of the things he did and got away with , to me now is unbeleivable , and maybe to you.. in all fairness he was well versed in the bible and very clever how he used it to put a critic to rest at the doors and in one instance when i was witnessing with him , he demoralised a pastor of his church .and i was impressed at that time.. but he had some strange ways , he was always looking for someone to break gods laws so to speak .he did set himself up as the policeman for enforcing gods law on the congregations .

( this is my description ) he was known to stand outside bros/sis.

homes to see if he could find something incriminating against them .

Bungi Bill

I hate to buck the trend here, but I recall no elders who would actually fit into the category of "weirdo."

Upstarts, officious, snobs, a few just out right nasty, and almost all badly undereducated:

- but weirdos, nil.

The nearest that I recall was one elder's wife, who if not actually a weirdo, was very close to it.

Bill.

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Idiot Ray Comfort (Banana Man) Blames Children's Murder on Dawkins and Hitchens

by cantleave in

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friends

http://www.goddiscussion.com/105352/british-redcoats/.

american pastor blames mass murder of children on 'british redcoats' richard dawkins and christopher hitchens .

in his "on the box" program dubbed "a biblical truth zone" ray comfort of living water ministries weighed in on the horror and tragedy of the shooting spree at sandy creek elementary school in newtown, ct, in order to offer his viewers an explanation.